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Manufacturer burned down during riots will leave Minneapolis

A Minneapolis manufacturing company has decided to leave the city, with the company's owner saying he can't trust public officials who allowed his plant to burn during the recent riots. The move will cost the city about 50 jobs.

"They don't care about my business," said Kris Wyrobek, president and owner of 7-Sigma Inc., which has operated since 1987 at 2843 26th Av. in south Minneapolis. "They didn't protect our people. We were all on our own."


Wyrobek said the plant, which usually operates until 11 p.m., shut down about four hours early on the first night of the riots because he wanted to keep his workers out of harm's way. He said a production supervisor and a maintenance worker who live in the neighborhood became alarmed when fire broke out at the $30 million Midtown Corner affordable housing apartment complex that was under construction next door.


"The fire engine was just sitting there," Wyrobek said, "but they wouldn't do anything."

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The city's first survey of property damage shows that nearly 1,000 commercial properties in Minneapolis were damaged during the riots, including 52 businesses that were completely destroyed and 30 other locations that sustained severe damage.

Owners and insurance experts estimate the costs of the damage could exceed $500 million.

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Wyrobek said it is too late to keep his company in the city.

When asked if he thought of relocating before the riots, Wyrobek said, "not in my wildest nightmare." On Monday, he was sorting through the remnants of his business, figuring out how to get up and running again.

"We are cautiously optimistic we can do that," he said. "But we are certainly not able to do that in Minneapolis."

https://www.startribune.com/manufacturer-that-burned-during-mpls-riots-plans-to-move-out-of-the-city/571104922

52 businesses completely destroyed. 30 nearly destroyed.

Even if they get an insurance payout, there's no guarantee that they will rebuild or stay within the community. This is the other side nobody thinks about until it happens.

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Reply #1 posted 06/08/20 8:08pm

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That's good. Now he won't have to deal with the human garbage on the police force there.

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Reply #3 posted 06/09/20 1:41am

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poppys said:

That's good. Now he won't have to deal with the human garbage on the police force there.

He won't have to deal with the human garbage who started the fire either

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Reply #4 posted 06/09/20 3:49am

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poppys said:

That's good. Now he won't have to deal with the human garbage on the police force there.


He won't have to deal with the human garbage who started the fire either


Strive seems to be our instant expert on protesters being human garbage, you'll have to ask them about that.

People can move their businesses wherever they want. If Wyrobek wants to leave Minneapolis, let him leave, that's his choice. Like Prince said about Baltimore -

If there ain't no justice, then there ain't no peace
If there ain't no justice, then there ain't no peace
If there ain't no justice, then there ain't no peace
If there ain't no justice, then there ain't no peace

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The end justifies the means, right?
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Reply #6 posted 06/09/20 9:13am

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The end justifies the means, right?


You're talking about police brutality, right?

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poppys said:



SantanaMaitreya said:


The end justifies the means, right?


You're talking about police brutality, right?


Maybe. Maybe not.
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Reply #8 posted 06/09/20 9:31am

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Yes it’s sad that many businesses were lost, during the protest. I don’t believe anyone here said they support looting and vandalism or anyone losing their business or job. Nor support anyone having their life taken.

Let’s remember that many infiltrators from various racial groups, were part of that vandalism and looting. Does anyone know what the follow up has been, on the cop that was caught breaking the glass of Auto Zone, to make it look like the peaceful protesters or members of that community did it?
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Reply #9 posted 06/09/20 11:12am

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Yes, sorry, I forgot that this damage was caused by white supremacist infiltrators lol lol lol

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Reply #10 posted 06/09/20 12:08pm

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Yes, sorry, I forgot that this damage was caused by white supremacist infiltrators lol lol lol


I know you’re having a hard time with the unity of the peaceful protesters, but don’t worry, you should know the ‘good’ always outweighs the ‘evil.’

Yes, it is unfortunate that some businesses, were affected during the protests, no one is denying that. Some may be able to rebuild their businesses, and others may be able to find employment again, but George Floyd will never get his life back.

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Reply #11 posted 06/09/20 12:18pm

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2elijah said:

Strive said:

Yes, sorry, I forgot that this damage was caused by white supremacist infiltrators lol lol lol

I know you’re having a hard time with the unity of the peaceful protesters, but don’t worry, you should know the ‘good’ always outweighs the ‘evil.’ Yes, it is unfortunate that some businesses, were affected during the protests, no one is denying that. Some may be able to rebuild their businesses, and others may be able to find employment again, but George Floyd will never get his life back. Hope you find peace within your conscience.


You can replace a store and the things in it, but you cannot bring back a life.

Tired of those conflating the looting with the protests.

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Reply #12 posted 06/09/20 12:27pm

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2elijah said:

Strive said: I know you’re having a hard time with the unity of the peaceful protesters, but don’t worry, you should know the ‘good’ always outweighs the ‘evil.’ Yes, it is unfortunate that some businesses, were affected during the protests, no one is denying that. Some may be able to rebuild their businesses, and others may be able to find employment again, but George Floyd will never get his life back. Hope you find peace within your conscience.


You can replace a store and the things in it, but you cannot bring back a life.

Tired of those conflating the looting with the protests.


They sound EXACTLY like the arguments that slavery was a "necessary evil" for economic reasons. 400 years of making excuses.

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Reply #13 posted 06/09/20 12:28pm

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poppys said:

You're talking about police brutality, right?


Maybe. Maybe not.


Do you have police brutality in your country?

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Reply #14 posted 06/09/20 12:50pm

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2elijah said:

Yes, it is unfortunate that some businesses, were affected during the protests, no one is denying that. Some may be able to rebuild their businesses, and others may be able to find employment again, but George Floyd will never get his life back. Hope you find peace within your conscience.


The multiple people that lost their lives during the riots, does anybody care or remember their names? No.

Did those 80 businesses that were severely damaged or destroyed have anything to do with the death of George Floyd? Did it bring justice for him? No.

Will Black Lives Matter use any of the tens of millions of dollars they have gotten from our corporate masters to rebuild Minneapolis and help the disinfranched there? No. Minneapolis will be quickly forgotton as they move on to the next news story and city.

What's left? A burned out city with less opportunity, less tax revenue and a group of lower income individuals that can't escape.

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Reply #15 posted 06/09/20 12:56pm

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I'll say it again:

Tired of those conflating the looting and the violence with the protests.

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Reply #16 posted 06/09/20 12:56pm

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Strive said:

2elijah said:

Yes, it is unfortunate that some businesses, were affected during the protests, no one is denying that. Some may be able to rebuild their businesses, and others may be able to find employment again, but George Floyd will never get his life back. Hope you find peace within your conscience.


The multiple people that lost their lives during the riots, does anybody care or remember their names? No.

Did those 80 businesses that were severely damaged or destroyed have anything to do with the death of George Floyd? Did it bring justice for him? No.

Will Black Lives Matter use any of the tens of millions of dollars they have gotten from our corporate masters to rebuild Minneapolis and help the disinfranched there? No. Minneapolis will be quickly forgotton as they move on to the next news story and city.

What's left? A burned out city with less opportunity, less tax revenue and a group of lower income individuals that can't escape.


Dystopian hyperbole. Leave everything status quo because it's so much better if we do nothing when 4 cops murder an African-American man in custody in handcuffs right on the street for all to see??? A man whose people built this country for no pay with their hands? Right, because of property damage.

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poppys said:

Strive said:


The multiple people that lost their lives during the riots, does anybody care or remember their names? No.

Did those 80 businesses that were severely damaged or destroyed have anything to do with the death of George Floyd? Did it bring justice for him? No.

Will Black Lives Matter use any of the tens of millions of dollars they have gotten from our corporate masters to rebuild Minneapolis and help the disinfranched there? No. Minneapolis will be quickly forgotton as they move on to the next news story and city.

What's left? A burned out city with less opportunity, less tax revenue and a group of lower income individuals that can't escape.


Dystopian hyperbole. Leave everything status quo because it's so much better if we do nothing when 4 cops murder an African-American man in custody in handcuffs right on the street for all to see??? A man whose people built this country for no pay with their hands? Right, because of property damage.


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No one will soon forget Minneapolis. They are going to dismantle their police department and hopefully go the way of Cranston and Compton and create a supportive effort towards a safe and equitable community. All eyes will be on Minni for a while.

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Reply #18 posted 06/09/20 1:49pm

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poppys said:



SantanaMaitreya said:


poppys said:


You're talking about police brutality, right?




Maybe. Maybe not.


Do you have police brutality in your country?


Not as much as in the US. There were protests over here in Holland too, which led to the mayor of Amsterdam getting in trouble because there was a huge demonstration where people totally ignored the measures to stop the corona virus. (No big crowds, keep your distance.) There was a reference to a case similar to the one in Minneapolis where a coloured man was killed by the police. But that was 5 years ago. So yes, we have our problems here too, but not on the same scale. And if you ask me, it is mostly the American fascination with guns that has a lot to do with it. Of course we also have our racial prejudice over here, but not as much violence as in the US.
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Reply #19 posted 06/09/20 2:55pm

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2elijah said:


Yes, it is unfortunate that some businesses, were affected during the protests, no one is denying that. Some may be able to rebuild their businesses, and others may be able to find employment again, but George Floyd will never get his life back. Hope you find peace within your conscience.


The multiple people that lost their lives during the riots, does anybody care or remember their names? No.

Did those 80 businesses that were severely damaged or destroyed have anything to do with the death of George Floyd? Did it bring justice for him? No.



Will Black Lives Matter use any of the tens of millions of dollars they have gotten from our corporate masters to rebuild Minneapolis and help the disinfranched there? No. Minneapolis will be quickly forgotton as they move on to the next news story and city.



What's left? A burned out city with less opportunity, less tax revenue and a group of lower income individuals that can't escape.



I’ll leave you to replies 16 and 17. That should answer your questions. Have a good day.
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Reply #20 posted 06/09/20 3:33pm

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Strive said:

2elijah said:

Yes, it is unfortunate that some businesses, were affected during the protests, no one is denying that. Some may be able to rebuild their businesses, and others may be able to find employment again, but George Floyd will never get his life back. Hope you find peace within your conscience.


The multiple people that lost their lives during the riots, does anybody care or remember their names? No.

Did those 80 businesses that were severely damaged or destroyed have anything to do with the death of George Floyd? Did it bring justice for him? No.

Will Black Lives Matter use any of the tens of millions of dollars they have gotten from our corporate masters to rebuild Minneapolis and help the disinfranched there? No. Minneapolis will be quickly forgotton as they move on to the next news story and city.

What's left? A burned out city with less opportunity, less tax revenue and a group of lower income individuals that can't escape.

It's cool that your crystal ball is working.

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Reply #21 posted 06/09/20 4:21pm

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poppys said:

Strive said:


The multiple people that lost their lives during the riots, does anybody care or remember their names? No.

Did those 80 businesses that were severely damaged or destroyed have anything to do with the death of George Floyd? Did it bring justice for him? No.

Will Black Lives Matter use any of the tens of millions of dollars they have gotten from our corporate masters to rebuild Minneapolis and help the disinfranched there? No. Minneapolis will be quickly forgotton as they move on to the next news story and city.

What's left? A burned out city with less opportunity, less tax revenue and a group of lower income individuals that can't escape.


Dystopian hyperbole. Leave everything status quo because it's so much better if we do nothing when 4 cops murder an African-American man in custody in handcuffs right on the street for all to see??? A man whose people built this country for no pay with their hands? Right, because of property damage.


Well, poppys, it isn't going to be the whites that are stuck in Minneapolis. But sure, burn down the city and drive away all the businesses. That will help the community by...wait how does that help the community and prevent this from happening again in the future?

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Reply #22 posted 06/09/20 6:35pm

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Strive said:

poppys said:


Dystopian hyperbole. Leave everything status quo because it's so much better if we do nothing when 4 cops murder an African-American man in custody in handcuffs right on the street for all to see??? A man whose people built this country for no pay with their hands? Right, because of property damage.


Well, poppys, it isn't going to be the whites that are stuck in Minneapolis. But sure, burn down the city and drive away all the businesses. That will help the community by...wait how does that help the community and prevent this from happening again in the future?


You answer all my questions first. And no worries, if this thread gets shut down like you shut down the second amendment thread, it's no loss whatsoever to me. Playing with alters gets tiresome anyway.

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Reply #23 posted 06/09/20 6:53pm

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ignorant people do ignorant things.

Fighting ignorance with ignorance is never a winning formula.

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Reply #24 posted 06/09/20 7:04pm

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What's the questions? Haha.

Last time I checked all the officers involved were arrested. (On too high of charges too so don't be shocked when most of them get a not guilty verdict, just like how Travon didn't get justice because the DA tried for second degree murder due to public outrage)


"A man whose people built this country for no pay with their hands? Right, because of property damage."

Well lets hope those same descendants can also rebuild their city for no pay. Because 80 businesses not paying their property tax will be a significant blow to the city's budget and that will probably start a tailspin that Minneapolis can't pull out of.

Saying "good, go ahead and leave" is good if you aren't the one stuck living there.

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Reply #25 posted 06/09/20 7:05pm

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v10letblues said:

ignorant people do ignorant things.

Fighting ignorance with ignorance is never a winning formula.


lol Is there a way to render that word even more meaningless in this context?

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Reply #26 posted 06/09/20 7:13pm

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poppys said:

You answer all my questions first. And no worries, if this thread gets shut down like you shut down the second amendment thread, it's no loss whatsoever to me. Playing with alters gets tiresome anyway.



Strive said:

What's the questions? Haha.

Last time I checked all the officers involved were arrested. (On too high of charges too so don't be shocked when most of them get a not guilty verdict, just like how Travon didn't get justice because the DA tried for second degree murder due to public outrage)


"A man whose people built this country for no pay with their hands? Right, because of property damage."

Well lets hope those same descendants can also rebuild their city for no pay. Because 80 businesses not paying their property tax will be a significant blow to the city's budget and that will probably start a tailspin that Minneapolis can't pull out of.

Saying "good, go ahead and leave" is good if you aren't the one stuck living there.

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Reply #27 posted 06/09/20 7:29pm

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poppys said:



Strive said:




poppys said:




Dystopian hyperbole. Leave everything status quo because it's so much better if we do nothing when 4 cops murder an African-American man in custody in handcuffs right on the street for all to see??? A man whose people built this country for no pay with their hands? Right, because of property damage.




Well, poppys, it isn't going to be the whites that are stuck in Minneapolis. But sure, burn down the city and drive away all the businesses. That will help the community by...wait how does that help the community and prevent this from happening again in the future?





You answer all my questions first. And no worries, if this thread gets shut down like you shut down the second amendment thread, it's no loss whatsoever to me. Playing with alters gets tiresome anyway.



It’s apparent the OP did not do any research or follow up on the rebuilding of businesses damaged/lost in Minneapolis, during the protests. If he/she did they would know that donations have already surpassed $1 million dollars, for the past week, from many to help rebuild businesses in Minneapolis. And if he is so concerned about Minneapolis, instead of trying to stir the pot, he could donate to one of the charities in the 2nd link.

Minneapolis will be okay:


https:://kstp.com/news/do...0/5752207/



Ways to help the Twin Cities:

https://kstp.com/news/loo...4ad/donate
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Reply #28 posted 06/09/20 7:53pm

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2elijah said:

poppys said:


You answer all my questions first. And no worries, if this thread gets shut down like you shut down the second amendment thread, it's no loss whatsoever to me. Playing with alters gets tiresome anyway.


It’s apparent the OP did not do any research or follow up on the rebuilding of businesses damaged/lost in Minneapolis, during the protests.

If he/she did they would know that donations have already surpassed $1 million dollars, for the past week, from many to help rebuild businesses in Minneapolis. And if he is so concerned about Minneapolis, instead of trying to stir the pot, he could donate to one of the charities in the 2nd link. Minneapolis will be okay: https:://kstp.com/news/do...0/5752207/ Ways to help the Twin Cities: https://kstp.com/news/loo...4ad/donate [Edited 6/9/20 19:37pm]

Shocking, isn't it?

Thanks for all the great info 2elijah! sun

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Reply #29 posted 06/09/20 8:03pm

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2elijah said:

It’s apparent the OP did not do any research or follow up on the rebuilding of businesses damaged/lost in Minneapolis, during the protests. If he/she did they would know that donations have already surpassed $1 million dollars, for the past week, from many to help rebuild businesses in Minneapolis. And if he is so concerned about Minneapolis, instead of trying to stir the pot, he could donate to one of the charities in the 2nd link. Minneapolis will be okay:

Cool, that can pay for 1/30th the cost of that affordable house complex that was burned down. What about the other 52 businesses that were destroyed?

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