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happy pride month from the GOP: platform includes reverse of gay marriage AND trump rolls back trans medical protections

from gop.com:

"Our laws and our government’s regulations should recognize marriage as the union of one man and one woman and actively promote married family life as the basis of a stable and prosperous society. For that reason, as explained elsewhere in this platform, we do not accept the Supreme Court’s redefinition of marriage and we urge its reversal, whether through judicial reconsideration or a constitutional amendment returning control over marriage to the states."

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they just never get tired of bigotry on the right, do they? anything they can do to fuck with minorities.



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Reply #1 posted 06/11/20 8:10pm

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FUCK THEM! mad

I said it before and I'll say it again - if I have to stand in line for hours to vote, I will. If people need rides to a polling place, I'll take them and wait until they vote and even stand in line for them if they can't.

VOTE.

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FUCK THEM! mad

I said it before and I'll say it again - if I have to stand in line for hours to vote, I will. If people need rides to a polling place, I'll take them and wait until they vote and even stand in line for them if they can't.

VOTE.

Good for you you. The US needs more people like you and less of those that believe voting won't change anything. Please do what you need to help those that need it get out to vote.

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That’s been their agenda the whole time. Voting has never been more necessary today. Too many rights trying to be taken away. Not to mention that unstable person in the White House.
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That’s been their agenda the whole time. Voting has never been more necessary today. Too many rights trying to be taken away. Not to mention that unstable person in the White House.


Yes, any progress made (and even all that was not easy and not 100% what was needed, but a start) is being rolled back. That was the agenda all along. And the many federal judges that have been appointed in the last 3.5 years have all been right of center.

trump gave a Fox interview overnight expressing fake horror about George Floyd but condeming protesters and defending police. disbelief



VOTE HIM THE F OUT!

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They should not do that. That should be left alone. Just like the left should never suggest taking away the right of individuals to keep and bear arms! Just like abortion or birth control as ruled in their related cases should be left as ruled.

There is no reason to try to change this law. I doubt they would even take it... even if hopfully Ruth and Steve were gone and replaced by Trump.

There is no reason to reomve it. They do need to address what should be the right to not take part. That would not include goods but on site services. But if a cake maker has to make a cake for that then they would have to make a cake with a theme for ANY activity that is legal... So I would suggest an open mind to the allowing limits to that too.

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They should not do that. That should be left alone. Just like the left should never suggest taking away the right of individuals to keep and bear arms! Just like abortion or birth control as ruled in their related cases should be left as ruled.

get on and stay on topic or get out and stay out of the thread, only.
your thread wrecking and diversions will not be tolerated in this thread.


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Empress said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

FUCK THEM! mad

I said it before and I'll say it again - if I have to stand in line for hours to vote, I will. If people need rides to a polling place, I'll take them and wait until they vote and even stand in line for them if they can't.

VOTE.

Good for you you. The US needs more people like you and less of those that believe voting won't change anything. Please do what you need to help those that need it get out to vote.

Thank you! Before Covid-19 I was part of a national activist group (local chapter) and we were planning to go out and canvass, organize registration, organize phone banks, write letters - some were even gong to travel to the swing states. We are on hold until the covid-19 restrictions loosen enough to assemble again. Calls and letters are still active, but canvassing can make a difference in a two point race (see Katie Porter!) We are heavily focusing on the downstream ballots (senate and Reps) as well as the WH.

It's boots on the ground this year!




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BREAKING NEWS

Trump Administration Erases Transgender Civil Rights Protections in Health Care

A rule finalized on Friday by the Department of Health and Human Services means that the federal government no longer recognizes gender identity as an avenue for sex discrimination in health care.

Friday, June 12, 2020 5:44 PM EST

The Trump administration announced the move on the four-year anniversary of the massacre at a gay nightclub in Orlando and in the middle of Pride Month.






THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT!







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Reply #10 posted 06/15/20 3:24am

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Trump keeps trying to appeal to his base. And the rest of us are forced to vote for Biden. I think Biden should just have signs posted everywhere "Vote for Biden - at least I'm not Trump smile"

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Trump keeps trying to appeal to his base. And the rest of us are forced to vote for Biden. I think Biden should just have signs posted everywhere "Vote for Biden - at least I'm not Trump smile"

after 4 years of watching trump light fire to everything he can, sometimes deliberatly and sometimes because hes the biggest fucking idiot we've ever had in the WH, biden is a giant tank of ice water ready to put out the fire.

he might not be the delicious lemonade obama was, but sometimes water is an absolutely fine choice, especially while standing in the middle of a building that is being burnt down by a batman villain.

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Breaking news:

Hey Supreme Court just ruled LGBTQ can sue for workplace bias.
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2elijah said:

Breaking news: Hey Supreme Court just ruled LGBTQ can sue for workplace bias. [Edited 6/15/20 7:07am]

im literally crying. thank you for tellingmme, i hadnt seen it yet

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Reply #14 posted 06/15/20 7:11am

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2elijah said:


Breaking news: Hey Supreme Court just ruled LGBTQ can sue for workplace bias. [Edited 6/15/20 7:07am]

im literally crying. thank you for tellingmme, i hadnt seen it yet




hug I posted that for you.


https://www.nbcnews.com/p...n-n1231018

SUPREME COURT
“Supreme Court rules existing civil rights law protects gay and lesbian workers
The decision said Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which makes it illegal for employers to discriminate because of a person's sex, also covers sexual orientation.”


Here’s more:

June 15, 2020, 10:05 AM EDT
By Pete Williams
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday that existing federal law forbids job discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, a major victory for advocates of gay rights — and a surprising one from an increasingly conservative court.

The decision said Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which makes it illegal for employers to discriminate because of a person's sex, among other factors, also covers sexual orientation. It upheld rulings from lower courts that said sexual orientation discrimination was a form of sex discrimination.

Across the nation, 21 states have their own laws prohibiting job discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Seven more provide that protection only to public employees. Those laws remain in force, but Monday's ruling means federal law now provides similar protection for LGBT employees in the rest of the country.“






*****+++++¥¥¥¥•



They’re waiting for the case for transgender workers. That ruling is to come out sometime today.

They’re talking about it on MSNBC. I just happened to have that station on, and it took a few mins. to find a link online.
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like the decriminilization of homosexuality ruling in 2003, and the marriage ruling in 2015... june is a very good month for us once a decade. thank you supreme court.

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cborgman said:

like the decriminilization of homosexuality ruling in 2003, and the marriage ruling in 2015... june is a very good month for us once a decade. thank you supreme court.



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i cant stop crying.

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2elijah said:

cborgman said:

like the decriminilization of homosexuality ruling in 2003, and the marriage ruling in 2015... june is a very good month for us once a decade. thank you supreme court.

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Trump and his cronies will not be happy.

good. fuck those bigots.

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i cant stop crying.



hug

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cborgman said:

3rdeyedude said:

Trump keeps trying to appeal to his base. And the rest of us are forced to vote for Biden. I think Biden should just have signs posted everywhere "Vote for Biden - at least I'm not Trump smile"

after 4 years of watching trump light fire to everything he can, sometimes deliberatly and sometimes because hes the biggest fucking idiot we've ever had in the WH, biden is a giant tank of ice water ready to put out the fire.

he might not be the delicious lemonade obama was, but sometimes water is an absolutely fine choice, especially while standing in the middle of a building that is being burnt down by a batman villain.


Biden is a tourniquet - we need to stop the bleeding. I do not feel "forced" to vote for anyone, you choose to vote for whom you think, or in this case, know would do a better job leading the country. We know with certainty that trump is 100% not fit to hold the office. Biden is a lifelong politician which has its good and bad elements, but he will bring sanity and dignity back into that office and hopefully will be able to mop up some the mess trump has made - it's a lot of damage and it won't be easy, but I trust Biden will surround himself with competent, professional people to aid in the clean up.

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cborgman said:

i cant stop crying.



hug

YAY!!!

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cborgman said:

after 4 years of watching trump light fire to everything he can, sometimes deliberatly and sometimes because hes the biggest fucking idiot we've ever had in the WH, biden is a giant tank of ice water ready to put out the fire.

he might not be the delicious lemonade obama was, but sometimes water is an absolutely fine choice, especially while standing in the middle of a building that is being burnt down by a batman villain.


Biden is a tourniquet - we need to stop the bleeding. I do not feel "forced" to vote for anyone, you choose to vote for whom you think, or in this case, know would do a better job leading the country. We know with certainty that trump is 100% not fit to hold the office. Biden is a lifelong politician which has its good and bad elements, but he will bring sanity and dignity back into that office and hopefully will be able to mop up some the mess trump has made - it's a lot of damage and it won't be easy, but I trust Biden will surround himself with competent, professional people to aid in the clean up.

exactly

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Reply #23 posted 06/15/20 8:03am

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Trump keeps trying to appeal to his base. And the rest of us are forced to vote for Biden. I think Biden should just have signs posted everywhere "Vote for Biden - at least I'm not Trump icon_smile.gif"

When I lived in St Croix we had an elected official that was so bad, they spoof ran the town crackhead as his opponent complete with bumper stickers that said Vote for Richard - We can't do any Worse. This is way beyond more serious than that.

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2elijah said:

cborgman said:

im literally crying. thank you for tellingmme, i hadnt seen it yet

hug I posted that for you. https://www.nbcnews.com/p...n-n1231018 SUPREME COURT “Supreme Court rules existing civil rights law protects gay and lesbian workers The decision said Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which makes it illegal for employers to discriminate because of a person's sex, also covers sexual orientation.” Here’s more: June 15, 2020, 10:05 AM EDT By Pete Williams “The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday that existing federal law forbids job discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, a major victory for advocates of gay rights — and a surprising one from an increasingly conservative court. The decision said Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which makes it illegal for employers to discriminate because of a person's sex, among other factors, also covers sexual orientation. It upheld rulings from lower courts that said sexual orientation discrimination was a form of sex discrimination. Across the nation, 21 states have their own laws prohibiting job discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Seven more provide that protection only to public employees. Those laws remain in force, but Monday's ruling means federal law now provides similar protection for LGBT employees in the rest of the country.“ ******+++++++++++++++¥¥¥¥• They’re waiting for the case for transgender workers. That ruling is to come out sometime today. They’re talking about it on MSNBC. I just happened to have that station on, and it took a few mins. to find a link online. [Edited 6/15/20 7:21am]

Decision was 6-3. What's interesting is that Gorsuch wrote the SCOTUS landmark ruling and Roberts also landed in the 6 majority. Kavanaugh wrote the dissent (of course) he, Alito and Thomas are pooptoast







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2elijah said:

cborgman said: hug I posted that for you. https://www.nbcnews.com/p...n-n1231018 SUPREME COURT “Supreme Court rules existing civil rights law protects gay and lesbian workers The decision said Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which makes it illegal for employers to discriminate because of a person's sex, also covers sexual orientation.” Here’s more: June 15, 2020, 10:05 AM EDT By Pete Williams “The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday that existing federal law forbids job discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, a major victory for advocates of gay rights — and a surprising one from an increasingly conservative court. The decision said Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which makes it illegal for employers to discriminate because of a person's sex, among other factors, also covers sexual orientation. It upheld rulings from lower courts that said sexual orientation discrimination was a form of sex discrimination. Across the nation, 21 states have their own laws prohibiting job discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Seven more provide that protection only to public employees. Those laws remain in force, but Monday's ruling means federal law now provides similar protection for LGBT employees in the rest of the country.“ ******+++++++++++++++¥¥¥¥• They’re waiting for the case for transgender workers. That ruling is to come out sometime today. They’re talking about it on MSNBC. I just happened to have that station on, and it took a few mins. to find a link online. [Edited 6/15/20 7:21am]

Decision was 6-3. What's interesting is that Gorsuch wrote the SCOTUS landmark ruling and Roberts also landed in the 6 majority. Kavanaugh wrote the dissent (of course) pooptoast

to be fair... i havent yet read it, but heard that his dissent is laregely because he thinks title vii should be amended to expressly say sexual orientation and gender identity, which isnt wrong. that route has been attempted but was shut down by right wing shitpiles like mcconnell

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cborgman said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Decision was 6-3. What's interesting is that Gorsuch wrote the SCOTUS landmark ruling and Roberts also landed in the 6 majority. Kavanaugh wrote the dissent (of course) pooptoast

to be fair... i havent yet read it, but heard that his dissent is laregely because he thinks title vii should be amended to expressly say sexual orientation and gender identity, which isnt wrong. that route has been attempted but was shut down by right wing shitpiles like mcconnell



Justice Bret Kavanaugh. Justice Alito wrote a very long dissent for himself and Justice Thomas claiming that the Justices in the majority opinion were legislating from the bench and that any change should come from Congress, not the court. Justice Kavanaugh wrote separately making the same point. But he also ended his opinion against LGBTQ on an oddly congratulatory note, applauding LGBTQ folks for their “extraordinary vision, tenacity, and grit” in using the law to improve their lives.

Two LGBTQ people who sadly will not be able to read Justice Kavanaugh’s praise or join in the celebration today are Aimee Stephens and Donald Zarda. They are two of the three named plaintiffs in the cases today. Zarda died in 2014, and Stephens died earlier this year. Both of their families continued their cases and will be celebrating in their honor today. But it’s a sad coda to today’s celebration that only Gerald Bostock (the other plaintiff in these cases) will be able to celebrate the monumental victory that these three people have brought to America.

And on that note, Justice Kavanaugh was correct. Today’s decision is a major victory for LGBTQ rights, perhaps the greatest in American history because of its broad sweep and undeniable implications. Every LGBTQ person in the country who works for an employer with 15 or more workers, even those who live in the most conservative parts of the country, is now protected against discrimination on the job. This basic human right should have been extended decades ago, but the long delay shouldn’t take away from the fact that now that it has happened, it is a victory for LGBTQ people and for all Americans who care about justice and fairness.

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cborgman said:

to be fair... i havent yet read it, but heard that his dissent is laregely because he thinks title vii should be amended to expressly say sexual orientation and gender identity, which isnt wrong. that route has been attempted but was shut down by right wing shitpiles like mcconnell



Justice Bret Kavanaugh. Justice Alito wrote a very long dissent for himself and Justice Thomas claiming that the Justices in the majority opinion were legislating from the bench and that any change should come from Congress, not the court. Justice Kavanaugh wrote separately making the same point. But he also ended his opinion against LGBTQ on an oddly congratulatory note, applauding LGBTQ folks for their “extraordinary vision, tenacity, and grit” in using the law to improve their lives.

Two LGBTQ people who sadly will not be able to read Justice Kavanaugh’s praise or join in the celebration today are Aimee Stephens and Donald Zarda. They are two of the three named plaintiffs in the cases today. Zarda died in 2014, and Stephens died earlier this year. Both of their families continued their cases and will be celebrating in their honor today. But it’s a sad coda to today’s celebration that only Gerald Bostock (the other plaintiff in these cases) will be able to celebrate the monumental victory that these three people have brought to America.

And on that note, Justice Kavanaugh was correct. Today’s decision is a major victory for LGBTQ rights, perhaps the greatest in American history because of its broad sweep and undeniable implications. Every LGBTQ person in the country who works for an employer with 15 or more workers, even those who live in the most conservative parts of the country, is now protected against discrimination on the job. This basic human right should have been extended decades ago, but the long delay shouldn’t take away from the fact that now that it has happened, it is a victory for LGBTQ people and for all Americans who care about justice and fairness.

i posted it about it in the other thread, as its specifically about todays ruling, but totally agree. lets keep the ruling stuff in that one, though

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DiminutiveRocker said:



Justice Bret Kavanaugh. Justice Alito wrote a very long dissent for himself and Justice Thomas claiming that the Justices in the majority opinion were legislating from the bench and that any change should come from Congress, not the court. Justice Kavanaugh wrote separately making the same point. But he also ended his opinion against LGBTQ on an oddly congratulatory note, applauding LGBTQ folks for their “extraordinary vision, tenacity, and grit” in using the law to improve their lives.

Two LGBTQ people who sadly will not be able to read Justice Kavanaugh’s praise or join in the celebration today are Aimee Stephens and Donald Zarda. They are two of the three named plaintiffs in the cases today. Zarda died in 2014, and Stephens died earlier this year. Both of their families continued their cases and will be celebrating in their honor today. But it’s a sad coda to today’s celebration that only Gerald Bostock (the other plaintiff in these cases) will be able to celebrate the monumental victory that these three people have brought to America.

And on that note, Justice Kavanaugh was correct. Today’s decision is a major victory for LGBTQ rights, perhaps the greatest in American history because of its broad sweep and undeniable implications. Every LGBTQ person in the country who works for an employer with 15 or more workers, even those who live in the most conservative parts of the country, is now protected against discrimination on the job. This basic human right should have been extended decades ago, but the long delay shouldn’t take away from the fact that now that it has happened, it is a victory for LGBTQ people and for all Americans who care about justice and fairness.

i posted it about it in the other thread, as its specifically about todays ruling, but totally agree. lets keep the ruling stuff in that one, though

thumbs up!

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The medical issue for Transgender is one that doesn't seem cut and dry. I do not like the idea of giving a child chemicals to stop their development as that is often difficult if not impossible to reverse if given too soon and can create issues with the process if they do not change their mind.

We can look at that case of Jazz from the tv show "I am Jazz" (or something like that). She was put on blockers and hormones as a child and thus she did not develop and when they went to do the bottom conversion the tissues were not there because they never grew so they had to use a less desirable alternative method.

Also if a woman has a penis how can she expect a girl part doctor to give her a quality standard of care?

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