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Reply #210 posted 06/25/20 6:13pm

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Reply #211 posted 06/25/20 6:33pm

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i actually remember it going up. i graduated 96.

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Reply #212 posted 06/25/20 10:20pm

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Interesting that Trump keeps saying that "they" are trying to take down "OUR" statutues and take away "OUR" culture...Since I'm sure Drumpf's family emigrated to America after the Civil War, and he himself was born in Queens, NY and lived most of his life in Manhattan, how is this "HIS" culture ? Unless of course, he just means "US WHITE PEOPLE" ...

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Reply #213 posted 06/25/20 11:50pm

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Interesting that Trump keeps saying that "they" are trying to take down "OUR" statutues and take away "OUR" culture...Since I'm sure Drumpf's family emigrated to America after the Civil War, and he himself was born in Queens, NY and lived most of his life in Manhattan, how is this "HIS" culture ? Unless of course, he just means "US WHITE PEOPLE" ...

he just means "us white people" mad

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Reply #214 posted 06/26/20 6:05am

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jjhunsecker said:

Interesting that Trump keeps saying that "they" are trying to take down "OUR" statutues and take away "OUR" culture...Since I'm sure Drumpf's family emigrated to America after the Civil War, and he himself was born in Queens, NY and lived most of his life in Manhattan, how is this "HIS" culture ? Unless of course, he just means "US WHITE PEOPLE" ...


he just means "us white people" mad

hah nod

JJ makes another good point. I've conversed with people who say racist things and then when you drill down they say - Well, my family wasn't here during the civil war. So, guess they learned quick, huh?

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Reply #215 posted 06/26/20 7:06am

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jjhunsecker said:


Interesting that Trump keeps saying that "they" are trying to take down "OUR" statutues and take away "OUR" culture...Since I'm sure Drumpf's family emigrated to America after the Civil War, and he himself was born in Queens, NY and lived most of his life in Manhattan, how is this "HIS" culture ? Unless of course, he just means "US WHITE PEOPLE" ...



he just means "us white people" mad


Exactly. Trump is that stupid he thinks no one gets his codes. Lol.
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Reply #216 posted 06/26/20 7:09am

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What about Columbus Day? Why are we celebrating a holiday after a man that never set foot in this country nor did he discover it? He never made it to the mainland. What’s wrong with this country celebrating lies? It’s time to tell the truth.
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Reply #217 posted 06/26/20 8:17am

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What about Columbus Day? Why are we celebrating a holiday after a man that never set foot in this country nor did he discover it? He never made it to the mainland. What’s wrong with this country celebrating lies? It’s time to tell the truth.

Speaking of which - all states need to change it to Indigenous Peoples Day:

This is a state holiday observed on the Second Monday in October.

It is a holiday in Maine, New Mexico and South Dakota and is known as Native American's Day in South Dakota.

*Note that Alaska, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, South Dakota, Vermont and Wisconsin observe this day, but it is not a paid holiday.



Many cities and towns in various states will observe this day as Indigenous People's Day. For a full list of who observes what, please read our state by state guide to Columbus Day.

History of Indigenous People's Day

As you may guess from the link above, this holiday has risen to prominence as a replacement for Columbus Day.

The date of Columbus' arrival in the new world on October 12th 1492 was adopted by many countries across the Americas and the Caribbean as a public holiday.

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Reply #218 posted 06/26/20 8:29am

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2elijah said:

What about Columbus Day? Why are we celebrating a holiday after a man that never set foot in this country nor did he discover it? He never made it to the mainland. What’s wrong with this country celebrating lies? It’s time to tell the truth.

yup.

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Reply #219 posted 06/26/20 1:51pm

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so lets talk about columbus.

someone explain to me why we need columbus day, columbus statues, or columbus named places.
because america is full of columbus stuff that has absolutely no connection to america. its the biggest waste of space, money, and aggravation with not a single valid reason that i can see.


anyone want to make a valid case for them to stay?

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[Edited 6/26/20 13:54pm]

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Reply #220 posted 06/26/20 1:52pm

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2elijah said:


What about Columbus Day? Why are we celebrating a holiday after a man that never set foot in this country nor did he discover it? He never made it to the mainland. What’s wrong with this country celebrating lies? It’s time to tell the truth.


Speaking of which - all states need to change it to Indigenous Peoples Day:


This is a state holiday observed on the Second Monday in October.


It is a holiday in Maine, New Mexico and South Dakota and is known as Native American's Day in South Dakota.


*Note that Alaska, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, South Dakota, Vermont and Wisconsin observe this day, but it is not a paid holiday.




Many cities and towns in various states will observe this day as Indigenous People's Day. For a full list of who observes what, please read our state by state guide to Columbus Day.


History of Indigenous People's Day


As you may guess from the link above, this holiday has risen to prominence as a replacement for Columbus Day.


The date of Columbus' arrival in the new world on October 12th 1492 was adopted by many countries across the Americas and the Caribbean as a public holiday.



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Reply #221 posted 06/26/20 1:55pm

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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Speaking of which - all states need to change it to Indigenous Peoples Day:

This is a state holiday observed on the Second Monday in October.

It is a holiday in Maine, New Mexico and South Dakota and is known as Native American's Day in South Dakota.

*Note that Alaska, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, South Dakota, Vermont and Wisconsin observe this day, but it is not a paid holiday.



Many cities and towns in various states will observe this day as Indigenous People's Day. For a full list of who observes what, please read our state by state guide to Columbus Day.

History of Indigenous People's Day

As you may guess from the link above, this holiday has risen to prominence as a replacement for Columbus Day.

The date of Columbus' arrival in the new world on October 12th 1492 was adopted by many countries across the Americas and the Caribbean as a public holiday.

That’s good news.

like juneteenth, indigenous people day needs to be a national holiday.

its ridiculous these arent days of mourning of vital importance to the country marked by a day off for reflection, community, and upward change.

especially when we have the idiotic columbus day, which just reminds us this country was built on the imagined rape and pillage rights of white men. its horrendous.

this is the kind of systematic racism that has to be built over. its so ingrained in this country, and has to be weeded out if we are to continue.

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Reply #222 posted 06/26/20 2:07pm

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cborgman said:



2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:



Speaking of which - all states need to change it to Indigenous Peoples Day:


This is a state holiday observed on the Second Monday in October.


It is a holiday in Maine, New Mexico and South Dakota and is known as Native American's Day in South Dakota.


*Note that Alaska, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, South Dakota, Vermont and Wisconsin observe this day, but it is not a paid holiday.




Many cities and towns in various states will observe this day as Indigenous People's Day. For a full list of who observes what, please read our state by state guide to Columbus Day.


History of Indigenous People's Day


As you may guess from the link above, this holiday has risen to prominence as a replacement for Columbus Day.


The date of Columbus' arrival in the new world on October 12th 1492 was adopted by many countries across the Americas and the Caribbean as a public holiday.




That’s good news.

like juneteenth, indigenous people day needs to be a national holiday.

its ridiculous these arent days of mourning of vital importance to the country marked by a day off for reflection, community, and upward change.

especially when we have the idiotic columbus day, which just reminds us this country was built on the imagined rape and pillage rights of white men. its horrendous.

this is the kind of systematic racism that has to be built over. its so ingrained in this country, and has to be weeded out if we are to continue.

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[Edited 6/26/20 14:00pm]


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Reply #223 posted 06/28/20 6:20pm

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https://www.nbcnews.com/n..._aLAxW4fvc

Mississippi Legislature passes bill to eliminate Confederate symbol from state flag

By Doha Madani and Tim Stelloh

Mississippi lawmakers voted Sunday to remove the Confederate battle emblem from the state flag, a symbol that has flown for more than 120 years.


The state House and Senate approved a suspension of the rules Saturday, allowing for debate and a vote on the bill. It passed the House on Sunday by a vote of 91-23, quickly followed by a 37-14 Senate vote.


Speaking before the vote, Democratic state Sen. Derrick Simmons urged his colleagues to vote for the "Mississippi of tomorrow."


"In the name of history, I stand for my two sons, who are 1 and 6 years old, who should be educated in schools and be able to frequent businesses and express their Black voices in public places that all fly a symbol of love, not hate," he said.

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Reply #224 posted 06/28/20 6:22pm

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2elijah said:

cborgman said:

like juneteenth, indigenous people day needs to be a national holiday.

its ridiculous these arent days of mourning of vital importance to the country marked by a day off for reflection, community, and upward change.

especially when we have the idiotic columbus day, which just reminds us this country was built on the imagined rape and pillage rights of white men. its horrendous.

this is the kind of systematic racism that has to be built over. its so ingrained in this country, and has to be weeded out if we are to continue.

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[Edited 6/26/20 14:00pm]

Agree. nod

add pride to the list as well. i am feeling it today on the 50th anniversary. its time for pride to be a national holiday.


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Reply #225 posted 06/28/20 7:33pm

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Marriage equality has been around longer than the entire existence of the confederacy. Build statues about that!

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Reply #226 posted 06/28/20 7:34pm

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Marriage equality has been around longer than the entire existence of the confederacy. Build statues about that!

true. just over 5 years, which is longer than the traitors lasted in their idiotic quest to keep slavery.

and a statue of 2 american men kissing is a lot more american than a statue of an american traitor.


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Reply #227 posted 06/29/20 4:57am

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https://www.nbcnews.com/n..._aLAxW4fvc

Mississippi Legislature passes bill to eliminate Confederate symbol from state flag

By Doha Madani and Tim Stelloh

Mississippi lawmakers voted Sunday to remove the Confederate battle emblem from the state flag, a symbol that has flown for more than 120 years.


The state House and Senate approved a suspension of the rules Saturday, allowing for debate and a vote on the bill. It passed the House on Sunday by a vote of 91-23, quickly followed by a 37-14 Senate vote.


Speaking before the vote, Democratic state Sen. Derrick Simmons urged his colleagues to vote for the "Mississippi of tomorrow."


"In the name of history, I stand for my two sons, who are 1 and 6 years old, who should be educated in schools and be able to frequent businesses and express their Black voices in public places that all fly a symbol of love, not hate," he said.


LONG overdue . Will be so happy not to see that stupid flag anymore. In a state with a 38% African American population. What a slap in the face, and they got away with it way too long. What the govenor said - unbelievably hyperbolic gnashing of teeth. In 2020, wah! it's so haarrrdddd. SMDH.

Mississippi Republican Governor Tate Reeves tweeted his support on Saturday, vowing to sign the bill if passed by the state legislature.

"It will be harder than recovering from tornadoes, harder than historic floods, harder than agency corruption, or prison riots or the coming hurricane season -- even harder than battling the coronavirus," the governor wrote.

"For economic prosperity and for a better future for my kids and yours, we must find a way to come together. To heal our wounds, to forgive, to resolve that the page has been turned, to trust each other. With God's help, we can."

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Reply #228 posted 06/29/20 3:16pm

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cborgman said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Marriage equality has been around longer than the entire existence of the confederacy. Build statues about that!

true. just over 5 years, which is longer than the traitors lasted in their idiotic quest to keep slavery.

and a statue of 2 american men kissing is a lot more american than a statue of an american traitor.


Couple of points bouncing off that:

1) they flew that flag again when schools were being ordered to integrate, so their "heritage" is nothing but anti-government. I'm an anarchist, but let's call a thing a thing: they're racists.

2) when emancipation happened, the south wrote what was called Black Laws (or Black Codes) to keep Black people in virtual slavery (endentured servitue). Not having a job could be considered vagrancy, and that was punishable by a whipping or death.

When the mid 50s, '64 and '68 civil rights acts were enacted, those states wrote local laws to counteract them. When Brown v. Board of education happened, they consistently countered that. The defunding of education (specifically in Black districts) kept going through Nixon, and Reagan and beyond. They were still fighing as to whether or not the constitution (specifically amendments 13, 14, and 15) guaranteed any citizen an education. The supreme court put in place by Nixon & Reagan said it didn't. They gutted the Voter's Rights Act (which was part of 14 or 15, the other being natural born citizenship) to gerrymander voting, and redrew districts so representation was gutten.

This shit has never ended. It's still going on today. This is all laid out in Carol Anderson's White Rage book. I thought it would be the usual systemic racism type book, but it goes onto explain the specifics of that, not just give examples of people like Freddie Gray or Michael Brown. She draws a line from Emancipation right through Obama's administration. I've learned more from that book than any other so far. (not that the others were bad)

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Reply #229 posted 06/29/20 3:25pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

cborgman said:

true. just over 5 years, which is longer than the traitors lasted in their idiotic quest to keep slavery.

and a statue of 2 american men kissing is a lot more american than a statue of an american traitor.


Couple of points bouncing off that:

1) they flew that flag again when schools were being ordered to integrate, so their "heritage" is nothing but anti-government. I'm an anarchist, but let's call a thing a thing: they're racists.

2) when emancipation happened, the south wrote what was called Black Laws (or Black Codes) to keep Black people in virtual slavery (endentured servitue). Not having a job could be considered vagrancy, and that was punishable by a whipping or death.

When the mid 50s, '64 and '68 civil rights acts were enacted, those states wrote local laws to counteract them. When Brown v. Board of education happened, they consistently countered that. The defunding of education (specifically in Black districts) kept going through Nixon, and Reagan and beyond. They were still fighing as to whether or not the constitution (specifically amendments 13, 14, and 15) guaranteed any citizen an education. The supreme court put in place by Nixon & Reagan said it didn't. They gutted the Voter's Rights Act (which was part of 14 or 15, the other being natural born citizenship) to gerrymander voting, and redrew districts so representation was gutten.

This shit has never ended. It's still going on today. This is all laid out in Carol Anderson's White Rage book. I thought it would be the usual systemic racism type book, but it goes onto explain the specifics of that, not just give examples of people like Freddie Gray or Michael Brown. She draws a line from Emancipation right through Obama's administration. I've learned more from that book than any other so far. (not that the others were bad)

completely agree. its systemic, ingrained, and people are still very much profiting off of it.

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Reply #230 posted 06/30/20 1:03pm

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Interesting he chose that place for to celebrate July 4th. Lol

https://www.cnn.com/2020/...index.html

No social distancing planned for Trump's Mt. Rushmore fireworks event, governor says

By Betsy Klein, CNN
Updated 12:45 PM ET, Tue June 30, 2020




(CNN)”President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump will travel to Mt. Rushmore National Memorial in Keystone, South Dakota, on Friday for an early Fourth of July fireworks celebration and flyover, the first of its kind in more than a decade. The event will gather "thousands" together during a global pandemic with no social distancing, comes amid a national conversation on monuments with racist histories and also highlights local environmental issues.

Trump has made significant efforts to downplay -- or outright ignore -- the pandemic in recent weeks, painting a rosy picture of the administration's response and pushing reopenings despite the fact that 36 states are currently experiencing a rise in new cases.“
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Reply #231 posted 06/30/20 3:14pm

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Interesting he chose that place for to celebrate July 4th. Lol https://www.cnn.com/2020/...index.html No social distancing planned for Trump's Mt. Rushmore fireworks event, governor says By Betsy Klein, CNN Updated 12:45 PM ET, Tue June 30, 2020 (CNN)”President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump will travel to Mt. Rushmore National Memorial in Keystone, South Dakota, on Friday for an early Fourth of July fireworks celebration and flyover, the first of its kind in more than a decade. The event will gather "thousands" together during a global pandemic with no social distancing, comes amid a national conversation on monuments with racist histories and also highlights local environmental issues. Trump has made significant efforts to downplay -- or outright ignore -- the pandemic in recent weeks, painting a rosy picture of the administration's response and pushing reopenings despite the fact that 36 states are currently experiencing a rise in new cases.“



rolleyes I think it is one of the states with a low covid19 count. Did they cancel the DC fireworks n the mall?

He will take any chance he can to stupidly project the image that things are OK when things are really really bad mad

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2elijah said:


Interesting he chose that place for to celebrate July 4th. Lol https://www.cnn.com/2020/...index.html No social distancing planned for Trump's Mt. Rushmore fireworks event, governor says By Betsy Klein, CNN Updated 12:45 PM ET, Tue June 30, 2020 (CNN)”President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump will travel to Mt. Rushmore National Memorial in Keystone, South Dakota, on Friday for an early Fourth of July fireworks celebration and flyover, the first of its kind in more than a decade. The event will gather "thousands" together during a global pandemic with no social distancing, comes amid a national conversation on monuments with racist histories and also highlights local environmental issues. Trump has made significant efforts to downplay -- or outright ignore -- the pandemic in recent weeks, painting a rosy picture of the administration's response and pushing reopenings despite the fact that 36 states are currently experiencing a rise in new cases.“



rolleyes I think it is one of the states with a low covid19 count. Did they cancel the DC fireworks n the mall?

He will take any chance he can to stupidly project the image that things are OK when things are really really bad mad


Oh I don’t know about the DC fireworks.
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Interesting he chose that place for to celebrate July 4th. Lol https://www.cnn.com/2020/...index.html No social distancing planned for Trump's Mt. Rushmore fireworks event, governor says By Betsy Klein, CNN Updated 12:45 PM ET, Tue June 30, 2020 (CNN)”President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump will travel to Mt. Rushmore National Memorial in Keystone, South Dakota, on Friday for an early Fourth of July fireworks celebration and flyover, the first of its kind in more than a decade. The event will gather "thousands" together during a global pandemic with no social distancing, comes amid a national conversation on monuments with racist histories and also highlights local environmental issues. Trump has made significant efforts to downplay -- or outright ignore -- the pandemic in recent weeks, painting a rosy picture of the administration's response and pushing reopenings despite the fact that 36 states are currently experiencing a rise in new cases.“

He probably wants his own face on Mt. Rushmore.

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2elijah said:

Interesting he chose that place for to celebrate July 4th. Lol https://www.cnn.com/2020/...index.html No social distancing planned for Trump's Mt. Rushmore fireworks event, governor says By Betsy Klein, CNN Updated 12:45 PM ET, Tue June 30, 2020 (CNN)”President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump will travel to Mt. Rushmore National Memorial in Keystone, South Dakota, on Friday for an early Fourth of July fireworks celebration and flyover, the first of its kind in more than a decade. The event will gather "thousands" together during a global pandemic with no social distancing, comes amid a national conversation on monuments with racist histories and also highlights local environmental issues. Trump has made significant efforts to downplay -- or outright ignore -- the pandemic in recent weeks, painting a rosy picture of the administration's response and pushing reopenings despite the fact that 36 states are currently experiencing a rise in new cases.“

He probably wants his own face on Mt. Rushmore.


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lol ^^^ Good one!

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lol ^^^ Good one!


lol that meme went around when swamp was elected, but it remains appropos wink

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It’s interesting though, that some want to keep statues of rapists, slaveowners, those who committed genocide and other barbaric acts, erected in public view. Why honor them when they don’t deserve to be honored? In present day, would we build a statue of a mass murderer, a child molester?






Something to think about.
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2elijah said:

It’s interesting though, that some want to keep statues of rapists, slaveowners, those who committed genocide and other barbaric acts, erected in public view. Why honor them when they don’t deserve to be honored? In present day, would we build a statue of a mass murderer, a child molester? Something to think about. [Edited 7/2/20 6:22am]

I am not sure why people do not understand that the Confederacy was NOT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The Confederacy fought against the United States and lost. Historical, yes. Honorable, no.

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2elijah said:


It’s interesting though, that some want to keep statues of rapists, slaveowners, those who committed genocide and other barbaric acts, erected in public view. Why honor them when they don’t deserve to be honored? In present day, would we build a statue of a mass murderer, a child molester? Something to think about. [Edited 7/2/20 6:22am]


I am not sure why people do not understand that the Confederacy was NOT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The Confederacy fought against the United States and lost. Historical, yes. Honorable, no.


Exactly! The confederacy is a symbol of slavery, hate and racial division, and those who honor it, apparently support what it represents. They carry this false ideology of White supremacy, a bs ideology that has its believers, embracing the biggest lie ever sold.
Some people will make all kinds of excuses to defend statues of people who committed the worst crimes against humanity. Who in their right mind would honor such persons? Smh.

I mean come on, Columbus and his men committed horrible crimes. Just a snapshot of some of what he did. So why should he be honored? Smh


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