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Reply #270 posted 07/02/20 6:52am

IanRG

TweetyV6 said:

Double post.

[Edited 7/2/20 5:50am]

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See, you can one number based thing right: two of a thing is double one of a thing - there is hope for you yet!

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Reply #271 posted 07/02/20 8:05am

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IanRG said:

TweetyV6 said:

Double post.

[Edited 7/2/20 5:50am]

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See, you can one number based thing right: two of a thing is double one of a thing - there is hope for you yet!

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Reply #272 posted 07/02/20 8:19am

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IanRG said:

TweetyV6 said:

Lombardy = not all of Italy.
A lot of people 'fled' from the north to the south when the possibility of a lock down became realistic. That movement DID NOT result in an increase of infected people in the south.

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I don't care about the amount of deaths. That figure is useless as the criteria differ from country to country. That's what I have been saying from the beginning.
Only thing that counts is excess mortality.

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The different approches should have led to a different type of shape. It didn't.
Why?
Because the majority of the infections are undiscovered because many infected people (85% as per Ischgl study) don't have any symptoms at all, or the symptoms are so mild the infected people dind't recognise it as Covid-19.

The whole lock-down / social distancing / facemask bullshit is just that: BULLSHIT.
Hardly any effect on the spread of the virus but with terrible effects to the economy.

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Wrong on all counts

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Italy's total number of death was abysmal because its lockdown was ineffective in Lombardi in the critical phase - this is also what happened in Sweden and USA and UK and Brazil. The movement DID result in more deaths.

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We know you don't care about deaths of others. The excess mortality of Italy was massively more deaths than in Germany. It was massively more deaths in Sweden than in RoS.

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The shape is significantly different in places that handled it better - they did not increase as rapidly, they generally peaked both earlier and significantly lower and the rate of reduction was generally quicker. This resulted in the area under the curve being much less - This is not some high school maths puzzle - this meant significantly fewer deaths.

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It is not correct that majority of infections were undiscovered in places that managed this better than Sweden and Italy. Places with proper and early enough testing, track and trace have been able to eliminate community spread. The only new infections have been by import - people returning from places that failed to manage the infection. Claimed results from one town does not explain why there is virtually no community transmission in Iceland, New Zealand, Australia (the current kick up in Australia is from returnees forced to stay in hotels and these were miss-managed by the hotel security). If 85% of infectious people where undiscovered then the SCALE of deaths in these countries would be Sweden/Italy bad instead. Fact: they are not.

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The whole lockdown social distancing facemask commonsense is working to reduce the scale. It is saving lives and has actually prevented spread - this prevention has had the side effect of reducing other spreads eg of the normal flus.

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Your obsession with shape without understanding of scale or any care that this is dead people is telling. You inability to understand basic data analysis, statistics and maths makes me question you claims of being employed anywhere near numbers.

..... Never mind.... useless attempt # (lost count)

















Ah what the heck... just for the fun of it.... one last time.


I would expect a significant drop in daily deaths within 2 weeks of a strict quarantine & lockdown like Spain, Italy & France did. (what else would you do a quarantine for??)

Everyting shut down, no movement of people allowed (with some minor exceptions)
That should have resulted in close to zero transmissions and a significant drop in deaths.

A cliff in the graph.

There wasn't.

Italy fully locked down on March 9th, yet the peak of the 7-days rolling avg. daily deaths curve lies at March 26th. and gradually goes down from there on, allmost in a straight 45 degree line.


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Reply #273 posted 07/02/20 9:19am

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mixed bag of news... but it is NOT over yet and it is not uder control.

Why virus deaths are down but may soon rise

Intensive care unit at the United Memorial Medical Center in Houston on Tuesday.Go Nakamura/Getty Images


The coronavirus trends in the United States are pretty dark right now. The number of new cases is surging, unlike in most other affluent countries. And Fourth of July gatherings have the potential to make a bad situation worse.

But there is one important bright spot: The percentage of virus patients who die from it has continued to decline.

By The New York Times



This explains an otherwise confusing contrast. Coronavirus deaths in the U.S. have been falling for most of the last 10 weeks — to about 600 a day recently, down from more than 2,000 in late April — even though the overall caseload was holding fairly steady for much of that period and has lately been spiking.

President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence have argued that the continuing decline in deaths proves that the virus is under control. That’s not correct, epidemiologists say. But the decline really is good news.

Here’s how to understand it, based on two main causes — and one big caveat:

  • Medical treatment has improved. Doctors and nurses often diagnose the virus more quickly than they did a few months ago, thanks in part to more widespread testing. They have also had some success treating symptoms with remdesivir and other drugs. “The sooner you get treatment to people, the better they’re going to do,” my colleague Apoorva Mandavilli, a health reporter, says.
  • Older people are being more careful. The virus is usually rougher on older people, and many have responded with extra caution. As a result, they make up a falling percentage of new virus cases — which has helped reduce the death rate.
  • The caveat: Deaths may be on the verge of rising again. The flip side of the greater caution among the elderly is that many middle-aged and younger people are acting as if they’re invulnerable. Their increased social activity has fueled an explosion in cases over the last three weeks, which in turn could lead to a rise in deaths soon.

The timing remains unclear. In the spring, the trend line for deaths lagged the trend line for cases by only about a week. But that may have reflected the relatively modest number of tests being done at the time.

With testing now more widespread, it’s possible that the death data will lag the case data by closer to a month. (In a typical fatal case, the death comes three to five weeks after contraction of the virus.) If that’s correct, coronavirus deaths may start rising again any day.

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Reply #274 posted 07/02/20 1:54pm

IanRG

TweetyV6 said:

IanRG said:

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Wrong on all counts

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Italy's total number of death was abysmal because its lockdown was ineffective in Lombardi in the critical phase - this is also what happened in Sweden and USA and UK and Brazil. The movement DID result in more deaths.

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We know you don't care about deaths of others. The excess mortality of Italy was massively more deaths than in Germany. It was massively more deaths in Sweden than in RoS.

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The shape is significantly different in places that handled it better - they did not increase as rapidly, they generally peaked both earlier and significantly lower and the rate of reduction was generally quicker. This resulted in the area under the curve being much less - This is not some high school maths puzzle - this meant significantly fewer deaths.

.

It is not correct that majority of infections were undiscovered in places that managed this better than Sweden and Italy. Places with proper and early enough testing, track and trace have been able to eliminate community spread. The only new infections have been by import - people returning from places that failed to manage the infection. Claimed results from one town does not explain why there is virtually no community transmission in Iceland, New Zealand, Australia (the current kick up in Australia is from returnees forced to stay in hotels and these were miss-managed by the hotel security). If 85% of infectious people where undiscovered then the SCALE of deaths in these countries would be Sweden/Italy bad instead. Fact: they are not.

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The whole lockdown social distancing facemask commonsense is working to reduce the scale. It is saving lives and has actually prevented spread - this prevention has had the side effect of reducing other spreads eg of the normal flus.

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Your obsession with shape without understanding of scale or any care that this is dead people is telling. You inability to understand basic data analysis, statistics and maths makes me question you claims of being employed anywhere near numbers.

..... Never mind.... useless attempt # (lost count)

















Ah what the heck... just for the fun of it.... one last time.


I would expect a significant drop in daily deaths within 2 weeks of a strict quarantine & lockdown like Spain, Italy & France did. (what else would you do a quarantine for??)

Everyting shut down, no movement of people allowed (with some minor exceptions)
That should have resulted in close to zero transmissions and a significant drop in deaths.

A cliff in the graph.

There wasn't.

Italy fully locked down on March 9th, yet the peak of the 7-days rolling avg. daily deaths curve lies at March 26th. and gradually goes down from there on, allmost in a straight 45 degree line.


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What you expect in fantasyland and what the experts expect in the real world will always be different.

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The poor initial management was actually brought more under control by the necessity of the tight lockdown but the damage had already been done. The move from increasing rates of growth to a decline is your "cliff" - the real world not being mathematically perfect enough for you is your problem with understanding facts and maths. But when you are just doing this for fun with no concern or recognition of scale of the deaths in Italy or Sweden compared to RoS or Germany, what can anyone expect?

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As an early hot spot outside of China, the people managing this around the world have looked at the Italian miss-managment and how it pulled itself back from the brink. Places outside of Sweden and Brazil etc have heeded the warning and this is part of the reason why fewer people are currently dieing. Sweden has realised its errors and its Covid manager has said so (albeit he said he would aim for a response somewhere between Sweden's epic failure and RoS. This is reflected in the current attempts to bring this under control we discussed earlier.

[Edited 7/2/20 14:05pm]

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Reply #275 posted 07/02/20 4:03pm

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THIS:




Thomas Macias visited with friends in Lake Elsinore, outside Los Angeles, in June, and shortly after, began feeling sick, according to CNN.

He reportedly tested positive for coronavirus on June 18, wrote a Facebook message two days later lamenting his “stupidity,” which he said put his family members in danger.

“I f---ed up and went out a couple of weeks ago and I contracted the coronavirus,” Macias, 51, wrote, NBC News reported. “Because of my stupidity I put my mom and sisters and my family’s health in jeopardy. This has been a very painful experience.”

Macias continued with a plea for his Facebook friends to take warnings from health officials seriously.

“This is no joke. If you have to go out wear a mask and practice social distancing. Don’t be a f---ing idiot like me,” he wrote. “Hopefully with God’s help I’ll be able to survive this.”

Macias died one day after sharing his post.

Macias, who worked as a truck driver, had diabetes, which is among the conditions that put him at an increased risk for a severe illness from COVID-19, according to the Centers for Disease Contr...Prevention.

https://www.msn.com/en-us...wpIk_bc1WQ

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Reply #276 posted 07/02/20 5:49pm

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Herman Cain, Trump supporter and fed up with wearing a mask is in the hospital with Covid 19.

Hope he gets well soon

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Trump surrogate Herman Cain hospitalized with coronavirus weeks after attending Tulsa rally

Cain has frequently downplayed the risk of Covid-19 on social media.

https://www.politico.com/...rus-348190

Cain, briefly a frontrunner in the 2012 GOP presidential primary, tweeted a picture on June 20 of himself and others at Trump’s indoor rally.

“Here’s just a few of the #BlackVoicesForTrump at tonight’s rally! Having a fantastic time!” the caption read. No one in the picture was wearing a mask.

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Cain has frequently downplayed the risk of Covid-19 on social media. As he was in the hospital Wednesday, Cain’s account tweeted approvingly of the lack of social distancing restrictions at Trump’s upcoming Mount Rushmore event.

“Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump,” Cain wrote on Twitter. “PEOPLE ARE FED UP!”

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Reply #277 posted 07/02/20 9:31pm

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v10letblues said:

Herman Cain, Trump supporter and fed up with wearing a mask is in the hospital with Covid 19.

Hope he gets well soon

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Trump surrogate Herman Cain hospitalized with coronavirus weeks after attending Tulsa rally

Cain has frequently downplayed the risk of Covid-19 on social media.

https://www.politico.com/...rus-348190

Cain, briefly a frontrunner in the 2012 GOP presidential primary, tweeted a picture on June 20 of himself and others at Trump’s indoor rally.

“Here’s just a few of the #BlackVoicesForTrump at tonight’s rally! Having a fantastic time!” the caption read. No one in the picture was wearing a mask.

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Cain has frequently downplayed the risk of Covid-19 on social media. As he was in the hospital Wednesday, Cain’s account tweeted approvingly of the lack of social distancing restrictions at Trump’s upcoming Mount Rushmore event.

“Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump,” Cain wrote on Twitter. “PEOPLE ARE FED UP!”



^^^ that

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Reply #278 posted 07/03/20 12:55am

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This is an amazing collection of data (lots of graphs for Tweety wink ), includes excess mortality and reported deaths - includes countries and US states https://www.ft.com/conten...5839e06441


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Reply #279 posted 07/03/20 1:01am

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And an interesting (balanced) article on Sweden https://www.ft.com/conten...153f701e1f (look at the similarities in their curves wink )


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Reply #280 posted 07/03/20 2:41am

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IanRG said:

TweetyV6 said:

..... Never mind.... useless attempt # (lost count)

















Ah what the heck... just for the fun of it.... one last time.


I would expect a significant drop in daily deaths within 2 weeks of a strict quarantine & lockdown like Spain, Italy & France did. (what else would you do a quarantine for??)

Everyting shut down, no movement of people allowed (with some minor exceptions)
That should have resulted in close to zero transmissions and a significant drop in deaths.

A cliff in the graph.

There wasn't.

Italy fully locked down on March 9th, yet the peak of the 7-days rolling avg. daily deaths curve lies at March 26th. and gradually goes down from there on, allmost in a straight 45 degree line.


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What you expect in fantasyland and what the experts expect in the real world will always be different.

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The poor initial management was actually brought more under control by the necessity of the tight lockdown but the damage had already been done. The move from increasing rates of growth to a decline is your "cliff" - the real world not being mathematically perfect enough for you is your problem with understanding facts and maths. But when you are just doing this for fun with no concern or recognition of scale of the deaths in Italy or Sweden compared to RoS or Germany, what can anyone expect?

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As an early hot spot outside of China, the people managing this around the world have looked at the Italian miss-managment and how it pulled itself back from the brink. Places outside of Sweden and Brazil etc have heeded the warning and this is part of the reason why fewer people are currently dieing. Sweden has realised its errors and its Covid manager has said so (albeit he said he would aim for a response somewhere between Sweden's epic failure and RoS. This is reflected in the current attempts to bring this under control we discussed earlier.

[Edited 7/2/20 14:05pm]


You just keep on adding non-relevant BS

Just to avoid that there is no other way to agree with this reasoning:


Everyting shut down, no movement of people allowed (with some minor exceptions)
That should have resulted in close to zero transmissions and a significant drop in deaths.

A cliff in the graph.

There wasn't.

flipped off


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Reply #281 posted 07/03/20 2:55am

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maplenpg said:

(look at the similarities in their curves wink )



Well yes, the direction coefficient of the trendlines from the maximum to the last data point from Denmark, Norway, Sweden & the UK will not be very different. (and if you add the curves of the Netherlands, Italy, France & Germany you would see the same)

Same applies to allmost every graph from zero to max.

That tells you something about the progression of the daily deathcount.

And there should be a signifficant difference between countries with a very srict quarantine regime (full lockdown - ES /FR/ ITA), a mild quarantine (GER/ NL) an virtually no quarantine (SWE)

There is not.

All curves roughly (within a bandwith of natural variation) follow the mathematical model as discovered and described by William Farr in 1840

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Reply #282 posted 07/03/20 3:37am

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TweetyV6 said:

maplenpg said:

(look at the similarities in their curves wink )


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Well yes, the direction coefficient of the trendlines from the maximum to the last data point from Denmark, Norway, Sweden & the UK will not be very different. (and if you add the curves of the Netherlands, Italy, France & Germany you would see the same)

Same applies to allmost every graph from zero to max.

That tells you something about the progression of the daily deathcount.

And there should be a signifficant difference between countries with a very srict quarantine regime (full lockdown - ES /FR/ ITA), a mild quarantine (GER/ NL) an virtually no quarantine (SWE)

There is not.

All curves roughly (within a bandwith of natural variation) follow the mathematical model as discovered and described by William Farr in 1840

Honestly Tweetster, I can't be bothered to work out the direction coefficient of the trendlines from the maximum to the last data point. However, I'm sure there is a graph you can provide for me wink

[Edited 7/3/20 4:02am]

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Reply #283 posted 07/03/20 4:39am

IanRG

TweetyV6 said:

IanRG said:


You just keep on adding non-relevant BS

Just to avoid that there is no other way to agree with this reasoning:


Everyting shut down, no movement of people allowed (with some minor exceptions)
That should have resulted in close to zero transmissions and a significant drop in deaths.

A cliff in the graph.

There wasn't.

flipped off


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I have added nothing that has not been said to you before, including by me in this thread.

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Facts are not non-relevant.

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The significant difference in the scale of the deaths in the stuff-up nations is not irrelevant.

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Your reasoning is wrong and this is clearly demonstrated by the fact that people continued to get infected and they continued to die but at a much lower rate. Your myth simply did not happen. The lockdown was not as followed as well as you imagine and it was too late. Back to reality - it worked in signficantly reducing the spread and the deaths.

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At this point, do you even remember what your point is?

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The real world figures show that the shutdown stopped the growth in new cases and deaths but it could never be mythically perfect.

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Reply #284 posted 07/03/20 4:46am

IanRG

TweetyV6 said:

maplenpg said:

(look at the similarities in their curves wink )




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Hey Tweety look at the differences, don't just dismiss them.

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Reply #285 posted 07/03/20 5:52am

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TweetyV6 said:

IanRG said:

But what does this mean? Due to the lockdowns and changes in how many are acting with reduced activity world wide (even in Sweden) there are less deaths from all causes. It does not mean Covid 19 is over. It does not that the reason for higher cases is higher testing. It leaves us still with fewer people are dieing as resuly of Covid19 because of the changes in knowledge, identification, practices and treatments - These benefit all people including those countries that failed to manage this like Sweden - just less so (Sweden is at over 24% of its peak average weekly, Norway is at 1.6% of its peak and remember Sweden's peak killed more than 5 times as many people as Norway's peak. Internationally, the change in total deaths per case has stayed in a tight band of more than 4.8% to less than 7.1% for months. On 4 April it was 5.046% and on 29 June it was 4.879%. You are miss-using figures to push an agenda


There's only one thing: The mortality rate of the virus has been exaggerated drastically.

Deaths are declining since those who were about to die, have died off.Regardless of what you do or don't in respect of 'prevention', you will see no significant rise in deaths.

Farr's law, bitch!

You know Tweety, Ireland hasn't been hit too badly, we locked down pretty quick and have been very transparent in reporting anyone who died with Covid as dying from Covid (something that is being questioned for being too vigorous in a report today, fair enough).

I personally know of several people who caught covid, recovered, but now have possible long-term damage, mostly lung damage. You dont have to die of it to be badly affected and considering some of these people would be healthier than me (and I have no underlying conditions) i'm glad we shut down and stopped the spread of it. Perhaps when we understand the disease better it won't actually be as bad as thought, but i'm glad we have erred on the side of caution.

It's hurting the economy for sure, and there's definitely health issues coming from that, but i'm hoping it leads to a less financialized way of looking at life in this country, where money is all and having it equals a good life. There's signs of this happening, although it'll be a long road.

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Reply #286 posted 07/03/20 6:08am

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IanRG said:

TweetyV6 said:



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Hey Tweety look at the differences, don't just dismiss them.

But, but Ian...don't you see all the perfect bell curves....Farr's law biggrin.

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Reply #287 posted 07/03/20 6:14am

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jaawwnn said:

TweetyV6 said:


There's only one thing: The mortality rate of the virus has been exaggerated drastically.

Deaths are declining since those who were about to die, have died off.Regardless of what you do or don't in respect of 'prevention', you will see no significant rise in deaths.

Farr's law, bitch!

You know Tweety, Ireland hasn't been hit too badly, we locked down pretty quick and have been very transparent in reporting anyone who died with Covid as dying from Covid (something that is being questioned for being too vigorous in a report today, fair enough).

I personally know of several people who caught covid, recovered, but now have possible long-term damage, mostly lung damage. You dont have to die of it to be badly affected and considering some of these people would be healthier than me (and I have no underlying conditions) i'm glad we shut down and stopped the spread of it. Perhaps when we understand the disease better it won't actually be as bad as thought, but i'm glad we have erred on the side of caution.

It's hurting the economy for sure, and there's definitely health issues coming from that, but i'm hoping it leads to a less financialized way of looking at life in this country, where money is all and having it equals a good life. There's signs of this happening, although it'll be a long road.

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Absolutely this.

My best friend in the whole wide world is a nurse on the covid wards. She says they are having a lot of complications and long-term damage post-covi. In her case she is seeing mostly blood clots causing problems rather than lung damage, sometimes people are losing limbs as a result of post-covid clots. Without doubt we are not understanding the long-term effects of this virus yet.

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Reply #288 posted 07/03/20 11:08am

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Today is my son's 19th birthday (Happy Birthday, Dakota!) and he just got a call from work (he works in a pizza delivery restaurant) that someone he worked closely with on Sunday has tested positive for the virus. Dakota is scheduled to be tested Sunday. My daughter doesn't qualify for testing because she's not 18 (she's 16) and because she and I are considered to be secondary exposures. But since it's my son's birthday (we celebrated yesterday though because he was supposed to be working today), I've been hugging on him and he's been right with me the entire time. Keep your fingers crossed that Dakota doesn't have it. He's in general good health, so, I'm hoping he doesn't get sick!

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Reply #289 posted 07/03/20 11:11am

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benni said:

Today is my son's 19th birthday (Happy Birthday, Dakota!) and he just got a call from work (he works in a pizza delivery restaurant) that someone he worked closely with on Sunday has tested positive for the virus. Dakota is scheduled to be tested Sunday. My daughter doesn't qualify for testing because she's not 18 (she's 16) and because she and I are considered to be secondary exposures. But since it's my son's birthday (we celebrated yesterday though because he was supposed to be working today), I've been hugging on him and he's been right with me the entire time. Keep your fingers crossed that Dakota doesn't have it. He's in general good health, so, I'm hoping he doesn't get sick!

Happy Birthday Dakota!!

Benni, hoping your entire family good health! Keep us updated.

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Reply #290 posted 07/03/20 2:49pm

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benni said:

Today is my son's 19th birthday (Happy Birthday, Dakota!) and he just got a call from work (he works in a pizza delivery restaurant) that someone he worked closely with on Sunday has tested positive for the virus. Dakota is scheduled to be tested Sunday. My daughter doesn't qualify for testing because she's not 18 (she's 16) and because she and I are considered to be secondary exposures. But since it's my son's birthday (we celebrated yesterday though because he was supposed to be working today), I've been hugging on him and he's been right with me the entire time. Keep your fingers crossed that Dakota doesn't have it. He's in general good health, so, I'm hoping he doesn't get sick!


Fingers crossed for a negaive test for Dakota! And Happy Birthday! party

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Reply #291 posted 07/04/20 1:01pm

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Trump Jr's girlfriend and former Fox News propagandist kimberly guilfoyle has tested positive for Convid 19. She is asymptomitic.

The US has the highest rate by far of Convid 19 cases

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Reply #292 posted 07/05/20 3:33am

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DiminutiveRocker said:



benni said:


Today is my son's 19th birthday (Happy Birthday, Dakota!) and he just got a call from work (he works in a pizza delivery restaurant) that someone he worked closely with on Sunday has tested positive for the virus. Dakota is scheduled to be tested Sunday. My daughter doesn't qualify for testing because she's not 18 (she's 16) and because she and I are considered to be secondary exposures. But since it's my son's birthday (we celebrated yesterday though because he was supposed to be working today), I've been hugging on him and he's been right with me the entire time. Keep your fingers crossed that Dakota doesn't have it. He's in general good health, so, I'm hoping he doesn't get sick!




Fingers crossed for a negaive test for Dakota! And Happy Birthday! party


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Reply #293 posted 07/05/20 11:53am

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Thanks everyone. Dakota was tested today, so now we wait 4 to 7 days for the results. He did tell them that he started having some gastrointestinal issues yesterday, which can be a first symptom in 19.4% of people who get it. Stanford University research showed that 1/3 of Covid patients ONLY developed symptoms of the digestive system and researchers in Beijing found that anywhere from 3 to 79 percent of people with COVID-19 develop gastrointestinal symptoms. I don't think he has it, I mean he has always been very self-conscious about social distancing when he can (work is not one of those places when they run the makeline like an assembly crew), and about wearing a mask and washing his hands. But now, it's just a waiting game.

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Reply #294 posted 07/06/20 9:08am

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Trump (falsely) says 99% of the Covid-19 cases are harmelss, yet 130k Americans are dead.

Recording breaking spikes in FL and TX.

NJ Governor calling for a nation-wide mask man-date as people bring the virus in from other states.


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Reply #295 posted 07/06/20 9:30am

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Was talking to RodeoSchro on Facebook last week...he blames the spike in Texas on the moron Republicans leading the state. He told me about this article from the Houston Chronicle's business section....Great read:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/columnists/tomlinson/article/texas-leaders-fail-covid-19-test-coronavirus-15378006.php

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Reply #296 posted 07/06/20 11:43am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Was talking to RodeoSchro on Facebook last week...he blames the spike in Texas on the moron Republicans leading the state. He told me about this article from the Houston Chronicle's business section....Great read:

https://www.houstonchroni...378006.php


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Reply #297 posted 07/06/20 12:21pm

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Reply #298 posted 07/06/20 3:25pm

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Atlanta mayor (and possible VP candidate) Keisha Lance Bottoms has tested positive for Covid-19.


"COVID-19 has literally hit home. I have had NO symptoms and have tested positive," she tweeted Monday.


https://www.cbsnews.com/n...d=93051930

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Reply #299 posted 07/06/20 4:59pm

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benni said:

Atlanta mayor (and possible VP candidate) Keisha Lance Bottoms has tested positive for Covid-19.


"COVID-19 has literally hit home. I have had NO symptoms and have tested positive," she tweeted Monday.


https://www.cbsnews.com/n...d=93051930




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